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UreKem/The Coatings Store

#1
I will not spray any clear (or likely any primer) other than SPI. I've been around many years and have sprayed nearly everything on the market. SPI Euro2020 and SPI UV are the best I've used at any price. But SPI doesn't do much with color and once owning a jobber store, I understand why. I have sprayed nearly everything on the market (not everything but the list is too long). You cannot get good quality/low cost basecoat because the major manufacturers HAVE to give you a reason to buy the high end, AND there are few independents. Once Matrix, bought out, Metalux, bought out........Meaning, Limco will never perform like Diamont, Omni will never perform like Deltron and Global. They HAVE to give you a reason to pay for the "good" stuff....Anyway, I have a young kid that helps me and doing a pro bono job for him. He wanted Viper GTS Blue and it turns out UreKem has "Dark Quasar Blue" that is a near perfect match. I'd like to give the small independent guy a shot on color. I talked to them and they are trying to compete with HOK and do only a few OE colors, mostly just cross overs from HOK. It will be cleared with Euro2020. I'll keep you posted on my thoughts.
 

Barry

Paint Fanatic
Staff member
#4
There is a big and long history behind this.
But I don't care how something sprays I want to know what it looks like 3, 5, 15 years down the road.
I say this to people who shoot my stuff for the first time and are impressed.
 
#5
Well it's a non-paying freebie for one of my guys. It's a test. If you don't test, you don't know. If I'd never taken the chance on SPI, I would not know how good it is. I did the same thing with SPI. I started spraying it on stuff that did not matter. Urekem may be complete junk but who knows. Maybe the price is good because they don't have the overhead of the majors or maybe it's cheap junk. Tech guy told me 2:1, if it a good hiding color I can use more reducer and can be catalyzed. We'll find out. And yes time will tell.

And Barry, I agree with you but prep and how someone takes care of the car matters too.
 
#6
I've heard Urekem is a low quality product........is it?
Maybe, I'll let you know my thoughts. It's low cost. SPI has taught me low cost does not translate directly to low quality except with the majors. Independents are capable of making good quality and lower cost because of the overhead and sales cycle. I don't know if this is the case but I'm willing to take a look on a job that don't matter as much. Plus if it turns out to be absolute junk, I'll just make this kid sand it all off :) The cost for a gallon of this color with shipping was 165. 3 quarts of the same color in the low lines (Nason, Limco, Omni) was about the same price.
 

Barry

Paint Fanatic
Staff member
#8
And Barry, I agree with you but prep and how someone takes care of the car matters too
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You are exactly right and location makes a big difference as well as the color.
Red in Boston has a much better chance at a good life VS in Denver, the SE or SW if all things are equal.
 

orangejuiced86

Garage hack at night.....
#10
I've used their basecoat on some golf carts and a 4 wheeler. Sprayed nice and SPI clear went on top.

Would I paint a car with it, not sure, most likely not. Would I paint a golf cart with it.. Yep.
 

orangejuiced86

Garage hack at night.....
#12
This one was Urekem base.. not sure if i used SPI production clear on top or some cheap Sherwin Williams fc720. I dont remember. Its a golf cart so I cant just justify the cost of DBC, and i didnt know about Automotive Art at the time. I think this stuff was like $70/quart.
 

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#13
This one was Urekem base.. not sure if i used SPI production clear on top or some cheap Sherwin Williams fc720. I dont remember. Its a golf cart so I cant just justify the cost of DBC, and i didnt know about Automotive Art at the time. I think this stuff was like $70/quart.
Actually was going to use this as an opportunity to try MotoBase but there is no one in my area so I decided to trial something else.
 
#14
I order Motobase from Chad on this forum, easy to deal with and quick shipping. Plus I like to support people who share their knowledge and experience.
 
#17
It would be nice to know how an inexpensive candy sprays and lays out. There are jobs where the big brand candies are too expensive for certain jobs.
 
#18
REAL UPDATE: Well I sprayed the color yesterday and cleared this morning. I'm going to try and NOT write a novel. If you have questions, shoot. When I decided to try this paint and specifically this color, I called their Tech line and spoke to someone and I wanted to know mixing ratio and if I could catalyze the base. The ratio is 2:1 and you can catalyze. He told me upfront that this particular color was a course aluminum, pearl and a lot blue dye. This would cause it to be a poor hider and I should seal a similar color. And poor hider was an understatement, it sprayed like candy with some course metallic in it. I can't complain, he told me what it was. I did seal it with a 2k blue sealer almost the same color so I put down three coats of base. It sprayed pretty well, I could denib in 15-20 mins with SPI Slow reducer and catalized at about .75 oz per quart sprayable. Metallic control was decent considering it was very course, but after 30+ years my technique is at least good. I did do old school acrylic enamel drop coat style on the hood but I don't think I need to. So for reference, along the same lines as HOK. Like a lot of custom paint, they focus on the end product and not how well it covers, then again if it were real opaque, it may not have the "look". And it does look fantastic. For reference, truck was preped with 180 and sealed with SPI Epoxy, minor body work done, replace drivers door with used one. Truck was spray with 3 coats of SPI regular 2k and final blocked. Truck was sealed with UTECH 460 blue sealer (only because I wanted to match the top coat), three coats of base and two heavy coats of SPI Euro2020. I'll try and take some pics later today. If Delton, Glasurit, are rated 9-10 and Limco, Omni and Nason are rated 1s and 2s. Then I would rate this as a 7.
 
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