Wandabase mix ratio

Vanillagorilla

Vanillagorilla

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Hello, the past several projects Ive been using wandabase due to good reviews on this site and due to local availability, price, etc. Its a small independent store that im buying from and I like dealing with them for that reason. They have a sign inside the store that states that all of the bases they sell are 1:1. Ive even asked them about wanda and they say 1:1. Ive been spraying it at 2:1 because thats what ive read on the tds from the wanda site. Its worked well for me at 2:1. Does anyone have a guess at why the dealer would advertise it as 1:1. And what could i expect if sraying it at 1:1 other than less coverage? Would it be thinner and most susceptible to run? Thanks
 
You have the TDS from Wanda why would you take this Jobbers advice over the Wanda TDS? Just because a place sells it, doesn't mean they know how to use it. Can it be sprayed 1:1? Sure. Will it cover like it's supposed to? No. Runs would not be an issue, if you are getting runs in base you would really need to look at your technique. But it's always a fools errand to deviate from how the manufacturer of the product says to use it.
 
Mix 2:1 for faster coverage , also less solvent to have to wait to evaporate. Like Chris said, go with the manufacturer instructions.
 
I use Wanda on most of my collision work and 2:1 is what the manufacture instructions are But I do play around with the mix may go a tiny bit thinner at times and conditions. My paint salesman is a painter so that helps.
 
From the Wanda TDS
Mix Ratio
2 Parts Wandabase HS Basecoat
1 Wandabase HS Reducer 422.02999 or High Temp Reducer 422.02997

This was the only thing I didn't like about using Wanda paint. You pay for a gallon but only get 6 quarts of ready to spray paint.

After finishing this Jeep I switched to Pro Spray until I eventually tried Motobase LV by Automotive Art (sold by Chad), which I am very satisfied with. Mixing 1:1 with reducer to give me 8 quarts RTS.

This was painted with Wanda and it turned out great. So it's just the 2:1 mix that I didn't like.
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'68 Coronet R/T said:
From the Wanda TDS
Mix Ratio
2 Parts Wandabase HS Basecoat
1 Wandabase HS Reducer 422.02999 or High Temp Reducer 422.02997

This was the only thing I didn't like about using Wanda paint. You pay for a gallon but only get 6 quarts of ready to spray paint.

After finishing this Jeep I switched to Pro Spray until I eventually tried Motobase LV by Automotive Art (sold by Chad), which I am very satisfied with. Mixing 1:1 with reducer to give me 8 quarts RTS.

This was painted with Wanda and it turned out great. So it's just the 2:1 mix that I didn't like.
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Looks great. But yea. Same thing here. So far ive had good luck with it. Im just used to 1:1 bases, after using ppg products for so long. So far with the wanda i did a solid white, a solid black, gm pewter metallic, and a gm charcoal metallic. The pewter layed out amazing and uniform. The charcoal metallic color looked kinda blotchy even though i sprayed it exactly like i always do. So I even did a orientation coat and it still didnt look good. So i let it flash and scuffed with 600 and did another coat. Still looked blotchy. At that point i just said whatever and cleared it, and after clear it looked perfect. Which was wierd. May have just been that particular color, idk.
 
Vanillagorilla said:
Looks great. But yea. Same thing here. So far ive had good luck with it. Im just used to 1:1 bases, after using ppg products for so long. So far with the wanda i did a solid white, a solid black, gm pewter metallic, and a gm charcoal metallic. The pewter layed out amazing and uniform. The charcoal metallic color looked kinda blotchy even though i sprayed it exactly like i always do. So I even did a orientation coat and it still didnt look good. So i let it flash and scuffed with 600 and did another coat. Still looked blotchy. At that point i just said whatever and cleared it, and after clear it looked perfect. Which was wierd. May have just been that particular color, idk.
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If you run into that again or something similar, a lot of the various bases nowadays reducing it with a blender works better than orientaion coats. Easier to do as well. You can use SPI Intercoat for that as well. Reduce 1:1 with your RTS base, if you activate the Intercoat do it separately from the base coat, then mix. Shoot one to two coats of the blender reduced base. One coat will usually do it with most. Sometimes two. Works good when trying to blend a difficult color as well. Same procedure.
 
Chris_Hamilton said:
If you run into that again or something similar, a lot of the various bases nowadays reducing it with a blender works better than orientaion coats. Easier to do as well. You can use SPI Intercoat for that as well. Reduce 1:1 with your RTS base, if you activate the Intercoat do it separately from the base coat, then mix. Shoot one to two coats of the blender reduced base. One coat will usually do it with most. Sometimes two. Works good when trying to blend a difficult color as well. Same procedure.
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Interesting. Never thought of that, which that was the first time I encountered that issue. Yes, back in my ppg days i used dbc500 quite a bit to reduce metallics on blends. Really did the trick. So ill keep that in mind for the future as well. Thanks for the tip
 
reducing base is no different than reducing lacquer. hell i still count drops. 2 to one means the base is already thin , one to one means the base is thicker.
everything we use is adjust to your gun hand. reduce it , adjust your gun , adjust your distance , adjust your speed.
say a quick prayer to the paint gods and hold your mouth right .
 
i am just the opposite. in all my painting years i cant remember ever using a base that mixed a 1:1. they have all been 2:1 so wanda is pretty normal to me.

as for the blotchy look, i really depends on how much flop controller/flattener is in the mix. wanda can spray with a bit more sheen to it than some others so if there is no flattener added to the formula it can look a little blotchy when dry depending on the color but it all goes away when you clear. what you looking at typically is just the variation in the sheen of the base. lesonal which i just sprayed today dries to a much more even matte finish so you dont seem to get that look.
 
I guess it depends on jobbers in your area. My area is dominated by ppg so 1:1 is “normal” to me. I did use a little of the cheaper sherwin line base here and there which was 2:1 and I remember it always being odd haha.
 
Jim C said:
i am just the opposite. in all my painting years i cant remember ever using a base that mixed a 1:1. they have all been 2:1 so wanda is pretty normal to me.

as for the blotchy look, i really depends on how much flop controller/flattener is in the mix. wanda can spray with a bit more sheen to it than some others so if there is no flattener added to the formula it can look a little blotchy when dry depending on the color but it all goes away when you clear. what you looking at typically is just the variation in the sheen of the base. lesonal which i just sprayed today dries to a much more even matte finish so you dont seem to get that look.
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Gotcha. Thanks for the info. It was really throwing me off. But all in all came out nice. Threw up a few pics. Nothing fancy but came out ok.
 

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