What's Barry dream up?

Dream products, none of this is probably feasible, but boy wouldn't this be fun. Some stuff I thought would be awesome in some of my day dream moments in the shop.

Imagine both a quick and slow epoxy.

Quick Epoxy, all the benefits of normal epoxy but with speed in mind, spread filler or spray 2k primer within 1 hour. Poly primer after 2 hours. 2 day open window.

Slow Epoxy, have time on your side as a hobbyist and enjoy a 30 day open window. No more worries about scuffing for the weekend warrior with a new no sand 30 day window for applying filler or primers.

On top of that new resins allow use in temperatures as low as 50 degrees with no concerns.

:cool:
 
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Dream products, none of this is probably feasible, but boy wouldn't this be fun. Some stuff I thought would be awesome in some of my day dream moments in the shop.

Imagine both a quick and slow epoxy.

Quick Epoxy, all the benefits of normal epoxy but with speed in mind, spread filler or spray 2k primer within 1 hour. Poly primer after 2 hours. 2 day open window.

Slow Epoxy, have time on your side as a hobbyist and enjoy a 30 day open window. No more worries about scuffing for the weekend warrior with a new no sand 30 day window for applying filler or primers.

On top of that new resins allow use in temperatures as low as 50 degrees with no concerns.

:cool:
Imagine the tech questions this would bring.
It would be nice tho.
Have to wonder if there is even a market for it.
 
I will add this. When people who create have time to think, their ideas might become reality. So I guess only time will tell.
 
Do you think Barry is coming up with more awesome products with his time off?
Lol, im working harder now trying to answer office forwarded calls and tech line calls and have 0 time. Brian and I are trying to answer calls from home that are typically done by 4 to 6 people.
Andy and Wendy are at plant pulling the orders Brian and I do.
 
Dream products, none of this is probably feasible, but boy wouldn't this be fun. Some stuff I thought would be awesome in some of my day dream moments in the shop.

Imagine both a quick and slow epoxy.

Quick Epoxy, all the benefits of normal epoxy but with speed in mind, spread filler or spray 2k primer within 1 hour. Poly primer after 2 hours. 2 day open window.

Slow Epoxy, have time on your side as a hobbyist and enjoy a 30 day open window. No more worries about scuffing for the weekend warrior with a new no sand 30 day window for applying filler or primers.

On top of that new resins allow use in temperatures as low as 50 degrees with no concerns.

:cool:
It can be done, but it would be a waste of your money.
Fast epoxy is a lousy epoxy.

Epoxy hate cold, but there are epoxies that are made to cure at 10 to 30 degrees, but you would never want these on a car.

30 day open coat wow that would really slow the cure down, and most cause a lot of other problems.
 
Classic car colors in SS or BC

My guys would fire me, and it will never happen.
We have spent 100s of hours in the office discussing options, and I lose every time.
Here are some proven facts as to our thinking from past experience.
The paint line added.
1st year 35% of volume and 95%
Of problem calls.
 
I want you guys to know we are always thinking of new things to make, but here is where we are different and one example.
Flex additive, it would take me 10 mins to write two different type formulas and sooo profitable to sell.
But like I have told 1000s of people over the years unless lacquer, it is a scam, but if you want to get rid of some money, it won't hurt anything if you use it.
 
I had an idea on a primer worked on for a couple of months on and off.
Figured out would not work, and a lot of good ideas take a lot of testing and time to find out it was a dumb idea, so on to the next one.
 
Flex additive, it would take me 10 mins to write two different type formulas and sooo profitable to sell.
But like I have told 1000s of people over the years unless lacquer, it is a scam, but if you want to get rid of some money, it won't hurt anything if you use it.

this brought up something my sons stepdad ( who has worked in auto body since he was 16 and 63 now) mentioned to me when i was learning and read about flex additive. i was doing a complete on a '96 mustang and didnt know if i had to spray the bumpers seperetaly or spray the whole car with the flex additive:
"spaying urethane primer/paint on a urethane part- why would a flex additive be needed? theyre both urethane and have some room to move. bend a urethane part enough and any paint will crack flex additive or not- its paint not rubber. the flex agent isnt going to make a difference."



logical?
 
Tomsteve,
In the past, a few times, I have said maybe use in 2k primer if bumper painted off the car, and it takes a lot of twisting to remount bumper.
 
Barry thanks for taking the time to answer my scenarios. I saw this post and had remembered thinking/dreaming during a couple long weekends facing a time crunch.

Make no mistake, I really like things as they are, and had great luck with everything I used.
 
Classic car colors in SS or BC

Three years ago I painted a truck. The color he wanted was a 60s color. Nobody had a formula for it except in ppg Shopline. I wanted to use a better line but formula for it didn't exist. Jobber told me it costs lots of money to reformula old colors when they have to comply with new regulations. So if not big sellers they just don't do it. Made sense to me.
 
I’d like to see SPI polyester primer. The Klausen that is use has become quite expensive.

Don

I wanted to a few years back, but back then I would need to buy $135,000 in equipment just for that, and next problem is I dont buy the right grade of acetone or as much as filler companies do, so at a real price disadvantage and would have to make fillers to get myself in the right position.
Not interested and will not sell a private label.
 
Three years ago I painted a truck. The color he wanted was a 60s color. Nobody had a formula for it except in ppg Shopline. I wanted to use a better line but formula for it didn't exist. Jobber told me it costs lots of money to reformula old colors when they have to comply with new regulations. So if not big sellers they just don't do it. It made sense to me.

Actually a little twisted tail, the real problem is sales just to small to put on books.
They already have the math in the data base to fine-tune, just not worth it for them, for me maybe as that is my business model.
 
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