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Hello All

Newbie to the site. I am wondering what all this hardware is on the side of my newly acquired DIY blast cabinet is and how to hook it up

The larger of the two hoses coming from the bottom appears to be the media pick-up. The smaller hose I don't know about

I use a standard air compressor NPT connector on all of my pneumatic tools. There are two Milton 1810 connectors and one standard connector on this unit

My plan is to install a cyclone separator along with my shopvac

Ken
 

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The black hose on the gun is the media pick-up/feed. The red hose on the gun is the air supply. That canister looking object might be some kind of water separator/desiccant container for the air to the gun.
 
Hey another guy who built his own blast box! Or at least purchased a home built box.
No help but thought I would post a few pictures of mine. Had it well over 20 years now.

I made it large and used the kit from Skat-Blast as the basis and then modified the dimensions to a larger size.
They have a basic kit with the hardware for $440 or so.
Blast Box Kit

Here is the shell I built. The box is mainly wood with steel re-reinforcements in certain spots.

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Now I do have some suggestions for a few accessories. I was always making a mess on the floor when opening the door and taking my parts out as the glass beads get everywhere inside the box.

I did a few things that helped a bunch.
First I added a trough outside and below the door opening. To catch what falls out. I finally found the right sized scoop (It's called a gutter scoop) and it fits perfectly inside the trough and I store it there and it's out of the way.

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I also added a shield to the inside of the door to guide the beads back away from the door opening. It does help and it's magnetically mounted on the steel door. The box is made of plywood but I cut the door out of some 10 gauge steel I purchased. Remember the door gets the most use and I wanted it to hold up so thought steel would be better than wood for this part.

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Next I added a blow gun inside the cabinet to get all the beads away from the door opening while I still had my blasting gloves on and before I opened the door.

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I also can never see as well as I liked so now I run 3 lights in the top of the box. I prefer the Halogen spot lights as the beams seem to cut thru the dust better. This picture was as built and I added the 3rd light later.

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I don't have any pictures but the angle at the bottom of the box was too shallow and the beads did not fall down where the siphon tube could pick them up very well. Lot's of bridging off. I installed a small vibration motor on the bottom of the box. They make one from TPtools that I had for years and it never had enough vibration to do anything.

These are all over and about $140 or so and you will need a speed controller to. Just depends on the angle in your box if you will need this or not. For me it keeps the material flowing and works very well.

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I also used the Dust Deputy style of cyclonic air cleaner and it just flat works! I still can't believe how clean the filter in my vacuum stays now that I have this in front of the vacuum. Really helps plus every so many years of use without it ruined the vacuum motor because of all the grit the motor inhales. I had replaced mine twice (Expensive at over $100 each) before I stated looking around and found these very common cyclonic dust extractors.

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Yes you can build your own version too but I went ahead and spent the money. In fact if I had had this before I bought the expensive can vacuum in the picture I might have just cheaped out and used a shop vac.

Also do not use that blue bag I show in the picture! Always vent the box to the outside of the shop! I used this for a while as I thought I would have a portable blast box but regardless of the filter quality you will get all kinds of fine dust and grit all over the shop. Plus your breathing that!

Blasting creates lots of water and I tried all kinds of things until again I finally figured out that without a refrigerated dryer blasting would be hard and painful. Which means I won't use it as much as I should.

Got this great deal on a Stainless Steel version (Which I have never seen ever?) again over 20 years ago. These things just don't seem to wear out as mine was decades old when I purchased it.

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Also note mine is mounted on (again) a steel frame with cast iron casters. I have everything mounted to this angle iron from. So it's still fairly portable. One air line, one electrical cord and the flexible hose to the outside vent. The box is big and you don't want to trap it somewhere and can't move it.

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I repair my blasting gloves a few times before they are replaced and the best repair kits are the ones made to repair vinyl swimming pools. I am right handed so usually hold the part in my left had and the blast gun in my right hand. This causes the left hand glove to wear out much faster.

Still struggling with the window fogging up from the blasting media hitting it. I tried the peel off plastic protectors but that did not work well for me. I have read about mounting a window screen several inches in front of the glass. I have a screen but have not tried this modification yet. I try to blast at angles where the beads bounce off in other directions from the glass. So I replace the glass every couple of years.

In the last few years I have changed from glass beads to crushed glass from Northern Tool. Mainly because it's cheaper and easier for me to get. I still like the surface finish better with glass beads but the surface finish the crushed glass leaves is fine too.
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Thanks very much!

I was kinda forced into to it. I love building,painting,restoring,hot rodding and all that entails but I DON'T like all the drudgery involved with removing rust and paint (or the worst stuck and rusted fasteners!). Once you use a blaster you won't go back. All I had to work with in my early years was a drill powered wire wheel, sandpaper and sweat. It was SLOW going and the work I turned out was very poor quality.

What I could do with a blaster in minutes was just amazing to me. When things are working right it's like painting in reverse! Your just removing coatings instead of applying them. I sometimes "tune" my box by adjusting the air pressure if I have some stuff that's fragile or if I just want to remove the top layer or so.

Now I recently saw some laser rust/paint removal and WOW! If the prices come down to DIY levels that would be a game changer. Still seems like a lot of danger involved too?
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The black hose on the gun is the media pick-up/feed. The red hose on the gun is the air supply. That canister looking object might be some kind of water separator/desiccant container for the air to the gun.
Thanks ct71rr. I will replace the antique water separator ASSY with new

All good then except that small black hose coming from the bottom of the unit. It is pig-tailed (cut) and hangs out with all the other weird separator stuff on the side. So I disconnected and ran 150psi through.
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Thanks very much!

I was kinda forced into to it. I love building,painting,restoring,hot rodding and all that entails but I DON'T like all the drudgery involved with removing rust and paint (or the worst stuck and rusted fasteners!). Once you use a blaster you won't go back. All I had to work with in my early years was a drill powered wire wheel, sandpaper and sweat. It was SLOW going and the work I turned out was very poor quality.

What I could do with a blaster in minutes was just amazing to me. When things are working right it's like painting in reverse! Your just removing coatings instead of applying them. I sometimes "tune" my box by adjusting the air pressure if I have some stuff that's fragile or if I just want to remove the top layer or so.

Now I recently saw some laser rust/paint removal and WOW! If the prices come down to DIY levels that would be a game changer. Still seems like a lot of danger involved too?
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Hi clubairth

Thanks much for all the great insight! I've not ever seen so much useful detail on this subject

I like the vibration motor idea most

Now it's time to get to work on this beast
 
The black hose on the gun is the media pick-up/feed. The red hose on the gun is the air supply. That canister looking object might be some kind of water separator/desiccant container for the air to the gun.
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Thanks ct71rr. I will replace the antique water separator ASSY with new

All good then except that small black hose coming from the bottom of the unit. It is pig-tailed (cut) and hangs out with all the other weird separator stuff on the side. So I disconnected and ran 150psi through.View attachment 35837

Hi clubairth

Thanks much for all the great insight! I've not ever seen so much useful detail on this subject

I like the vibration motor idea most

Now it's time to get to work on this beast
3/31/25. UPDATE
I removed and disassembled the hardware on the side of the cabinet and look what I found - Lovely
And the little black hose at the media feed at the bottom of the hopper is known as a metering valve. This allows for better media flow, they say. I put a 1/4-turn ball valve on that so it will be an adjustable flow

Thanks for your help so far, gents. Couldn't have done it without ya
Let's see how it goes once it's all together and functioning
 
Do any of you have any thoughts on a system that does NOT re-use blast media that is full of rust and paint that came off the stuff you're blasting? This is the hopper system I have, where all debris drops back into the hopper and mixes with the proper media

I am thinking of changing the media pick-up to another reservoir and to use the hopper as just a catch-all. Or maybe better, I could keep the system the way it is and add a micro screen at the bottom of the hopper to catch all of the larger partials. That 'screen platter' could be removed and cleaned no problem as the media drops low. This latter move would require the installation of a vibration assembly at the base of the hopper which would be so cool. Another switch and more wires - love it. I am going Doc Brown on this one

Gents or ladies, please let me know your thoughts when able. I am new to sand/soda blasting and wish to get more into it
 

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That's the beauty of using the cyclonic setup! I don't have all that crap mixed into the media because it's sucked out of the cabinet and into the Dust Deputy bucket. It's amazing what ends up in the bucket. I can see the rust and paint in the dust.

Now if there are some big chunks then yes it goes back into the media. I just don't see that. Everything comes off in small particles and dust.
With the box closed up and the vacuum running the gloves stick straight out into the box like they are full of air. Then I know things are working and sealed properly.
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i have a piece of steel mesh i bought from mcmaster and cut to fit under the grate that you work on inside the cabinet. some small stuff that doesnt matter gets by it but it does catch most of the stuff. i just vacuum it out once in a while. you can get the mesh/screen in whatever hole size you want.
 
Hello All

I've come pretty far with this project but have run into a snag. Hoping for your help
Can't get media up through the feed hose to gun
I am running regulated 125psi
Changed media to new/unused medium grain Soda
New gun
Made sure the hose is clear and no leaks
Seems as though media comes up only about 1/3 the way
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Without seeing the pickup tube and how its set up its hard to say. You know you cant pick up just solid media in the hose right? It needs a mixture of mostly air with a small amount of media. On a suction syst you usually have a double wall puckup tube. Your gun and blast hose is connected to the center and air goes down the outer wall to the bottom where its mixed.
 
Where’s the nozzle? I don’t see one in the pic. You are not going to generate any suction without a nozzle afaik.
 
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Hello Jim C. First, thank you for your advice. See new pictures

So I am guessing that the smaller black hose that "T's" into the pickup ASSY needs pressure. That pressure would arrive right at the pickup. What do you think?

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looking back at your original pictures before you started i see the pickup at the bottom. there is a small airline that runs down along with the pickup hose. if that airline doesnt flow enough air, is obstructed in some way then the mixture wont be right. there needs to be a certain amount of air per amt of media.
 
looking back at your original pictures before you started i see the pickup at the bottom. there is a small airline that runs down along with the pickup hose. if that airline doesnt flow enough air, is obstructed in some way then the mixture wont be right. there needs to be a certain amount of air per amt of media.
Jim C

I will hook-up metered air to that airline, which is the smaller black hose that "T's" off the pickup at bottom per my second round of pictures
 
Jim C

I will hook-up metered air to that airline, which is the smaller black hose that "T's" off the pickup at bottom per my second round of pictures
Jim

Everywhere I look, the positioning and purpose of that small black hose is not pressurized, rather only an open line, sometimes metered with ball valve. Am I getting ahead of myself? Please bring me back to reality when able :)

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yes that very well may be. just an open line or tube is common then the media is metered with a valve or more properly a true mixing valve.
 
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