I will be painting a 1967 Mustang in the near future, the car does not look bad to begin with but he wants it to be a very good job with a slick finish. Should I strip to bare metal and start from there or sand and respray over what is there? I am planning on 3 coats Euro 5000 let it sit a few weeks then sand with 800 and reclear with 4-5 coats of Universal. Any help and comments are greatly appreciated. Barry recommended me to use both clears on a project several years ago and it turned out great.
1967 Mustang
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Chris_Hamilton
Trying to be the best me, I can be
Being that car is 57 years old I'm sure there are a multitude of sins on it. I would want to strip it. Only way I wouldn't is if it had previously been stripped and existing paint looked good. If there is checking, or delamination it needs to come off. If your customer doesn't want to pay for that then I would reconsider doing the job. You end up chasing your tail, trying to repair areas that lift, not to mention that if something happens down the road you will be blamed for it even if it was an issue with the existing paint. Only way to do that job is tell your customer stripping to metal is not an option. Then be prepared for what you find. Chances are there will be problems you only can see once the car is in bare metal.
Lizer
Mad Scientist
The only reason I would not strip to metal is if you knew it was an all original car with original paint. I painted my grandpa's 70 F250 farm truck for my uncle which was all original since grandpa was the original owner. Some panels of that were scuff and shoot, while others I took down to bare metal. I only did this because I knew the history and knew it didn't have repaints nor was it a very rusty truck at all (and it only had 59k original miles).
My 67 Mustang on the other hand was taken down to bare metal and was a basket case of bad collision repairs. Mustangs have been around the block several times and usually have several repaints and restorations by this point.
Plus it's just better and easier to start with a clean metal surface.
My 67 Mustang on the other hand was taken down to bare metal and was a basket case of bad collision repairs. Mustangs have been around the block several times and usually have several repaints and restorations by this point.
Plus it's just better and easier to start with a clean metal surface.
If the 67s have the same foam in the rear wheel opening around the pinch weld as the 66 does, then it is almost a sure thing that there is or was rust there. So it might have been tempting to cover it up. Cowl rust is common also, with water leaking on the cabin floor. Door bottoms are common too, especially the bottom front.
JC, I agree with all the comments about stripping the car. I purchased a 66 mustang fastback 3 yrs ago and it was a nice looking car. Decided to change the color and found it had been painted 5 times! After stripping the car there was some very poorly done rust repair and a lot of bondo. Both doors where the weather stripping goes were rust out on the bottom. I could write a book on all the crappy work done on this car!
'68 Coronet R/T
Oldtimer
This '62 Chevy truck came to me for a repaint. Notice how nice the left beside looks.
Here's what was under there:
The owner had paid the California shop over $6000 to strip and paint it. The paint had start cracking and he wanted to know why and for me to "fix it".
Here's what was under there:
The owner had paid the California shop over $6000 to strip and paint it. The paint had start cracking and he wanted to know why and for me to "fix it".
RenewAP
Promoted Users
A little more primer would have helped the integrity of the repair.
dhutton01
Backyard Hack
Post up some before and bare metal pics.
I will post the pictures once I get the car here.
rusty428cj
Rusty Gillis
We have been building Mustangs since 2004 and all I use is SPI products except base color since 2004. Every Mustang is stripped to bare metal. We always remove the cowl, because they all leak. After removing the quarter panels from a bad repair on this 1966 Mustang look what we found. All the inner structure was rusted out. Good luck, you never know what is under that shiny paint.
Wow, thanks for the heads up, I still have not gotten the car here but when I do I will post some pictures along the way.