guide coats

shine

shine

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i see thread after thread about guide coats around the web. first off i hate anything 3m , just a burr under my saddle. plus it's high . i dont like spray bombs because the crap gums up and also cost too much.
since around 1974 i have used black pounce powder or white powder. i used it to transfer flames with a pattern . accidentally spilled some on a bike tank and smeared it around trying to wipe it off the primer. lights went on ! this was years before 3m came out with their little tub for 10 times the cost.
for the 30 dollars you pay for 3m you can get 16oz of black/white pounce powder and a nifty little applicator . this is going to last you forever .

now this is just food for thought from an old fat farmer and worth ever bit of what you paid for it .....................
 
Thanks Shine. I bought and use the 3M dry Guide Coat and it has done more than 3 completes so far but you are right its very expensive. I'll try the Pounce.
 
Thanks for sharing Shine, will definitely get some ordered up. I only see options of white or blue, not black. Im assuming the blue is dark enough to be effective as black?
 
I just got off the phone with hancymfg. The discontinued the charcoal becasue it is getting harder to purchase. Blue is the substitute. I found the charcoal on other sites, but its $15 plus for 16 oz and I am not sure it was a product of hancymfg. From talking to hancymfg, I got the imperssion it was not being supplied by them.
 
Thanks Shine, I just ordered a pound (black) from a Sign Company. $15 plus $9 Shipping. The other colors are much cheaper elsewhere.
 
Does anybody have their email address? I can't get the message to send on their site. Not sure if it is because I am not in the US.
 
Outlaw;n75099 said:
Thanks Shine, I just ordered a pound (black) from a Sign Company. $15 plus $9 Shipping. The other colors are much cheaper elsewhere.
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damn that will last years ................ :) did you get an applicator pad ?
 
you guys can get blue or red right at home depot. its chalkline powder. i got off the 3m years ago as well. i have used many things over the years, powders, dykem blue, watered down off color primer, but now i just find the cheapest flat black rattle can and use that. have had any issues gumming. the trick to that is getting it in matte and the super cheap stuff. 98 cents per can. just mist and go. high quality gloss stuff will gum up the paper.
 
They said the black is so fine it tends to clog up with the Han-See Pads. She recommended using two old socks, one inside the other. Otherwise the Han-See pads work fine with the Han-See line of pounce and they are pretty cheap to purchase from what I have saw.
 
Jim, I have that chalk in my wood working shop and never thought to try it, lol. I do need to pick up a 16 0z of white pounce and applicator from Han-See though for black primers.
 
I also wondered if the black I ordered would "refill" the 3M applicator. Will have to look to see if the top comes off that applicator.
 
i ordered blue pounce powder a few years back and all they did was buy a bulk of chalk line powder, put it in their own packaging and resell it to me. its the same exact stuff. you pour it in a sock like previously mentioned, tie the end and your good.

i hear ya rusty. my guide coat days have dwindled down to nothing as well. only on a rare occasion will i use it. usually if im sanding white primer where its hard to see.
 
i use a lot of guide coat now days. eyes just aint what they use to be . beck in the 70's i knew a painter who would paint a car black then sand it all off. we were using lacquer then so it was not as tough but his final coat would be a coat of black. i must say he did some killer stuff in his day.
 
If your good enough to not have to use guide coat, thats pretty awesome. Some of us have lost vision over the years and some of us have very little experience so guide coat helps us do a better job. Im so glad to hear there are painters who are so good they dont need it. Im not one of those.
 
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