Halo in Epoxy

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Was blocking out a tailgate the other day and had a "halo" effect appear in the epoxy, shown below just to the right of the latch hole. This has some Evercoat 416 beneath the epoxy, and it was nice and flat before spraying the epoxy. The way this looks, one would have expected to see a volcano looking form on the surface before spraying, and it was flat.. Anyone seen something like this before, and should I be worried about it?


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Are you sure there isn't a spot weld on the back side there? The ring looks low.
 
Brand new tailgate skin, no welding anywhere but the flanges... Can't feel a low, doesn't appear soft...
 
Maybe do a quick hit with some guide coat followed by some light blocking with like 320 grit?
 
Um...no. The rest of it is epoxy, I'm not going to band aid something with guide coat thinking that will offer any better substrate...
 
Lol no I just meant as a means of seeing if the halo returns it would be an easy way to tell if it's a high or low spot.
 
Sure looks like something pinged it from the inside unintentionally! The rings are substrate that has been blocked through.
 
crashtech;n74811 said:
Sure looks like something pinged it from the inside unintentionally! The rings are substrate that has been blocked through.

Exactly what I was thinking. I would epoxy again and guide coat that, I'm betting it will disappear and not return.
 
Couldn't find a nice close-up, but this is bare steel....


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Epoxy over bare steel....


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No dings, spot welds, or otherwise seen. I did have some filler along that top area after this phase, but all was blocked smooth prior to the next coat of epoxy.. So I'm just wondering where it came from. Will try and get a picture from the inside tomorrow night (shop night)
 
The only time I have seen that in my shop was when a tool or something was inside the door when door got picked up, and the whatever is in there slides down and just makes a tiny pinger when it hits the bottom.
 
It could also have came from pressure from what you have it hanging from sometimes the torque pressure can cause the metal to give just enough to do damage. It looks as though it is hanging at an angle which would put pressure on the panel.
How is it supported? It could have beenputting prgessure on it or when it was moved it could have done it then. But my guess is the way it was attached to the support.
 
Thanks for all the suggestions, and you guys were right on track.. I took some pictures, looked inside and found the culprit.. But let's back up a second and look at this one, it should have been my first clue. Where the second mark was not as round, looking at it now does show that it is rather symmetrical.

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The Halo is approx. 3" away from the handle hole..


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Measuring that distance on the inside shows.....oh wait....what's that bare metal?


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As soon as I saw this I realized there had only been one thing inside that could have caused it... the painting fixture..


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This was made to hold the tail gate in correct alignment as on the car for painting. I had radiused the lower bar but failed to do so on the top one. A check of the skin with body sweeps shows that a #15 sweep is about correct, so it was used to verify some relief grinding on the top bar...


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As added insurance, some truck cap gasket seal was added to further isolate the issue on both top and bottom bar....


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On a positive note, glad to find this issue in the primer stage.... So as a lesson at my expense, if you're making fixtures to hold body panels insure there are no pointed edges that may cause any outward dings.


Thanks again for the suggestions!
 
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