Motocryl vs Wanda SS

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Can anybody comment on coverage of Wanda SS and how they think it compares to Motocryl? I would normally use Motocryl but it's gone up $70/gallon since last year and is now at $400/gallon. Wanda is $300/gallon and Chad does have toners for Wanda so he can scan to match.

Chad's hunch was Motocryl might have better coverage since the Motobase has better coverage, but he hasn't done any comparisons on the SS, and has also said he hasn't had any complaints.

I'd probably have to have upwards of 4 gallons total so it could be a significant savings for my uncle's truck if I could go with Wanda.
 
i haven't used either one so i cant comment. what kind of a paint job are you doing on the truck? is it a work truck that you are just going to spray or is it something nice that you plan on sanding and buffing? i use the crap out of utech u500. its cheap, super good quality, durable but it just doesnt flow out like glass on large stuff if you know what i mean. could be an option depending what your doing and if you have an akzo jobber nearby
 
Jim C said:
i haven't used either one so i cant comment. what kind of a paint job are you doing on the truck? is it a work truck that you are just going to spray or is it something nice that you plan on sanding and buffing? i use the crap out of utech u500. its cheap, super good quality, durable but it just doesnt flow out like glass on large stuff if you know what i mean. could be an option depending what your doing and if you have an akzo jobber nearby
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It’s going to be a nice job that’s getting cut and buffed. It’s a very nice complete frame of all original restoration but it probably will never get showed. It’ll be as close to concourse as you can get without actually being concourse. I was going to spray three coats, cut with 600 and then do another 2 coats, then cut and buff.
 
On my doors I had Black epoxy in the interior sides and a coat of 1:1:1 epoxy on the entire doors for sealer. after the first coat of white Motocryl I already had complete coverage. Don't know if that's impressive or not. I can say after the first pass of the gun I felt that Motocryl was of high quality.
 
I’ve sprayed a camper with Motocryl and have sprayed 4 different Motobase colors too. It’s good no doubt. Just wasn’t sure if I could still get good results with Wanda having never sprayed it except in paint school 13 years ago.
 
Kawickrice said:
For the prices per gallon that was quoted, how many sprayable gallons will each have?
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Motocryl is 2:1+ 10%. According to my math 1 gallon (128oz) of Motocryl will yield 211.2 oz or 6.6 quarts RTS.
Edit: Given Wanda is 4:1 +10% Wanda will yield 176 oz or 5.5 quarts RTS.
 

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Which Wanda SS is the one being described above as 4:1?
From their website it looks like they have:
  • Topcoat 2K MAX
  • 2K Topcoat 420
  • Wanda PU 2K HS (this one is not on the website anymore, so may not be available)
PU 2K HS is the only one listed as 4:1. the other two are 2:1 per the TDS sheets. 2K MAX is described as two pack acrylic and Top coat 420 as "Two-component VOC compliant topcoat to be used over Wanda Fillers and existing finish" PU 2K isn't shown as an option on their website anymore.

Another point of confusion for me is that I always thought Polyurethane (IMRON) paint always uses a higher percentage of hardener as compared to 'regular' urethane paint. Going off the TDS, Wanda's PU (advertised as polyurethane) 4: 1 seems to use less hardener than it's acrylic 2:1 version. Does this make sense? Also, I hear acrylic paint and I think Rustoleom or tractor supply paint - not what I want on a car.

If a guy has been using PPG shopline SS, doesn't have a professional booth and wants to try something different that's in the same relative price range (ie. not $800/gallon) - what are a few single stage 2K brands to try?
 
I was using the Wanda PU.

Now that I'm a year after this thread, and having sprayed an entire camper in Motocryl and and entire truck in Wanda PU (both were being painted at the same time, so same weather, same gun), it is an easy Motocryl for me all day long.
 
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Skiertaz said:
Which Wanda SS is the one being described above as 4:1?
From their website it looks like they have:
  • Topcoat 2K MAX
  • 2K Topcoat 420
  • Wanda PU 2K HS (this one is not on the website anymore, so may not be available)
PU 2K HS is the only one listed as 4:1. the other two are 2:1 per the TDS sheets. 2K MAX is described as two pack acrylic and Top coat 420 as "Two-component VOC compliant topcoat to be used over Wanda Fillers and existing finish" PU 2K isn't shown as an option on their website anymore.

Another point of confusion for me is that I always thought Polyurethane (IMRON) paint always uses a higher percentage of hardener as compared to 'regular' urethane paint. Going off the TDS, Wanda's PU (advertised as polyurethane) 4: 1 seems to use less hardener than it's acrylic 2:1 version. Does this make sense? Also, I hear acrylic paint and I think Rustoleom or tractor supply paint - not what I want on a car.

If a guy has been using PPG shopline SS, doesn't have a professional booth and wants to try something different that's in the same relative price range (ie. not $800/gallon) - what are a few single stage 2K brands to try?
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i asked the same question a while back, i also seem to compare every thing to imron. the answer i got was that it has more to do with the chemical ingredients than the mix ratio. i dont want to quote Barry, i may get it wrong, but i believe he said some products used to be 1;1 but he changed that because of customer feed back. the actual product still had the same ingredients. we were strictly talking about SPI products.
 
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