Single stage paint recommendations...

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Getting ready to pull the trigger on Restoration Shop Gunmetal Grey Metallic Acrylic Enamel. (https://tcpglobal.com/products/rsp-ae2110-kit-m?variant=31731918307392

-- Going to use over SPI Epoxy Primer...

I'm curious if anyone has any other recommendations on a nice single stage paint I can purchase with colors similar to a gunmetal grey, or charcoal grey?
I've seen mixed reviews on Restoration shop TCP Global paint so I thought I would see if anyone here had some recommendations.

Picture below is the trailer I'm painting..

Thanks in advance,
 

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Jmb930 said:
Getting ready to pull the trigger on Restoration Shop Gunmetal Grey Metallic Acrylic Enamel. (https://tcpglobal.com/products/rsp-ae2110-kit-m?variant=31731918307392

-- Going to use over SPI Epoxy Primer...

I'm curious if anyone has any other recommendations on a nice single stage paint I can purchase with colors similar to a gunmetal grey, or charcoal grey?
I've seen mixed reviews on Restoration shop TCP Global paint so I thought I would see if anyone here had some recommendations.

Picture below is the trailer I'm painting..

Thanks in advance,
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Just say no to that stuff please. Anything geared toward the DIY guy like Restoration Shop is garbage. Plus if it's acrylic enamel it's going to stay open longer and if you are doing that trailer outdoors or semi outdoors it's going to collect any bug or trash in the nearby vicinity. Like the other boys recommended Automotive Art Motocryl would be an economical yet good quality choice.

Link to Chads business. You can get it through him and he will ship it to you.

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This entire aluminum camper was shot with 2 coats Motorcryl over 2 coats epoxy. At the same time I was painting this, I was painting a 70 F250 with Wanda single stage. I could tell a huge difference in how the Motocryl sprayed and flowed out vs the Wanda, with the Motocryl being markedly better.

These were the original colors, I didn’t pick them.

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The op is wanting a metallic gray, Motocryl is solid toners only. Motobase has a 2k converter that can turn any basecoat color into a single stage.
I have a couple of fleet customers that I regularly mix this converted formula for, one is PS ford green and 1G3 toyota gray. This converted mix performs well.
As mentioned above, no color sand or buff on a metallic SS.
 
LMAC said:
The op is wanting a metallic gray, Motocryl is solid toners only. Motobase has a 2k converter that can turn any basecoat color into a single stage.
I have a couple of fleet customers that I regularly mix this converted formula for, one is PS ford green and 1G3 toyota gray. This converted mix performs well.
As mentioned above, no color sand or buff on a metallic SS.
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that is valuable info sir, thank you.
old school, we shot it and lived with any mistakes or imperfections. im good with that, if the paint lays out the way i think it should. i am learning to trust you guys when you recommend a paint and when you say it covers and lays well. i see a big difference in paint.
 
dhutton01 said:
What you spray is what you got. Trash, runs, peel and wave. If you can live with that, go for it…
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the thing is, i dont remember getting peel or wave back then. dirt dust and runs yeah. back then about the only thing i worried much about was runs. orange peel didnt happen. im not sure what causes it now to be honest. so far i havnt had too much of it with spi products. yet.
 
Treeslayer said:
so, this question wont be popular. sorry.
back in the day we sprayed single stage metallic all the time. i realize mistakes are hard to correct that way, but, why not do that now?
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What type of single stage? Urethane, enamel? Since the advent and adoption of BC/CC, spraying SS metallics has gone by the wayside. According to some of the guys I worked with when starting out, spraying the metallic single stage enamels back in the late 60's early 70's and blending them was very hard to do. None of them pined for those days. With modern SS urethanes, you can do a little sanding on some metallics colors. Some colors it won't look good afterwards, some you can get away with it to an extent. Many years ago I did a re-paint on an 89 F150 with a maroon metallic (OEM) color. I sprayed it in Concept. Ended up having to cut and buff the whole thing. Looked good to my relatively untrained eye back then (91?). Owner was happy with it. Metallic in that color was very fine and not a lot of it. Something silver or gray metallic would not look good cut and buffed.

Orange peel is from spraying something too dry. Runs are too wet. Any paint will run. Any paint will orange peel.
 
so, i got lucky back then...........or as Chris said, it looked good at the time. i didnt know any better? boy i kinda miss not knowing any better lol.
i guess im comparing to imron since thats what i sprayed. with a pressure feed conventional gun. to be honest, spraying epoxy kinda reminds me of the simpler times. it just does what i expect. will the single stage be the same way? we shall see.
i dont know why i have a problem with clear coat.....maybe its that the one time i tried, it failed. maybe because i remember all the failed clear on OEM vehicles. idk, i should probably consider all variables.
 
Tungsten said:
Orange peel is from spraying something too dry

What causes mottling in metallic ? I thought too wet?
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i did too. but i got both mottling and orange peel. to be fair, it was cheap ass paint. also i seem to remember a thread talking about orange peel that isnt really, its some thing different.
 
Treeslayer said:
i did too. but i got both mottling and orange peel. to be fair, it was cheap ass paint. also i seem to remember a thread talking about orange peel that isnt really, its some thing different.
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Ive sprayed Silver Birch Metallic GM ,at an angle with the light just right you see puddles, so dry. But looks good when its dry.Spray it like clear where the puddles flow into each other I get mottled.
So I spray BC metallic kinda dry I guess.Looks good after clear.
 
Treeslayer said:
so, i got lucky back then...........or as Chris said, it looked good at the time. i didnt know any better? boy i kinda miss not knowing any better lol.
i guess im comparing to imron since thats what i sprayed. with a pressure feed conventional gun. to be honest, spraying epoxy kinda reminds me of the simpler times. it just does what i expect. will the single stage be the same way? we shall see.
i dont know why i have a problem with clear coat.....maybe its that the one time i tried, it failed. maybe because i remember all the failed clear on OEM vehicles. idk, i should probably consider all variables.
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Modern single stage is just clear with added pigment. They spray and behave the same. Your concerns about clear are not warranted.
 
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dhutton01 said:
Modern single stage is just clear with added pigment. They spray and behave the same. Your concerns about clear are not warranted.
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so if i am understanding, the clear today is much better than that of the 80s. or, compatibility is better........its not the same in either case, its better.
and or, its all a different animal either way you look at it.
 
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