Speed Clear

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Any of you use the Speed Clear and are not heavy handed? I'm wondering if I could do 3 coats instead of 2. I get a little worried about not having enough to cut.
 
I did some motorcycle parts with 2 coats, sanded with 600 without going through, then sprayed 2 more. This could easily be done the same day. JimC has his own procedure for putting multiple coats.
 
texasking said:
I did some motorcycle parts with 2 coats, sanded with 600 without going through, then sprayed 2 more. This could easily be done the same day. JimC has his own procedure for putting multiple coats.
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Do you consider yourself as a light handed sprayer? Or, a " if you don't get runs you're not trying hard enough" sprayer?
 
I might get a run a year, but the speed clear, never. I try to avoid spraying heavy enough to get urethane wave, but heavy enough to avoid dry spray and orange peel. Two coats of speed clear has enough build to buff starting with 1200-1500, IMO.
 
texasking said:
I might get a run a year, but the speed clear, never. I try to avoid spraying heavy enough to get urethane wave, but heavy enough to avoid dry spray and orange peel. Two coats of speed clear has enough build to buff starting with 1200-1500, IMO.
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In my garage, I get a ton of debris. More than 1200 will cut out. I usually have to get to 800 to get it done.
 
rdransman said:
I wet the floor down prior to using the tack rag. It cuts down on the debris a lot.
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I forget to put my window filter in and I think it's sucking stuff through the screen. If it can be done wrong, I usually do it. I get in a hurry and mess myself up. You don't have to be smart to be me.
 
AAE said:
Any of you use the Speed Clear and are not heavy handed? I'm wondering if I could do 3 coats instead of 2. I get a little worried about not having enough to cut.
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speed clear is to be applied wet never dry!
No one sprays as wet as I do (Exaggeration a little) and sprayed it 100s of times in six months of test and batch test and NEVER have had it run.
A 3rd coat is a disaster waiting to happen for solvent pop.
Unless the testing I did for JimC and test came out to 30 minute wait then do a coat.

Other option is like Tex said and now we are going custom.
 
The other day I ran short and had to mix more up real quick. Finished the area I missed but the rest didn't look quite right, so I put another coat on the whole thing. That was a mistake, it looked great for a while but got pretty dull by the next morning. It shined up with some 2000 and a buffer, but I will try not to make that mistake again.
 
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The other day I ran short and had to mix more up real quick. Finished the area I missed but the rest didn't look quite right, so I put another coat on the whole thing. That was a mistake, it looked great for a while but got pretty dull by the next morning. It shined up with some 2000 and a buffer, but I will try not to make that mistake again.
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More great info!
 
crashtech said:
The other day I ran short and had to mix more up real quick. Finished the area I missed but the rest didn't look quite right, so I put another coat on the whole thing. That was a mistake, it looked great for a while but got pretty dull by the next morning. It shined up with some 2000 and a buffer, but I will try not to make that mistake again.
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Which activator? Gun set-up? Social Security Number?
 
The first 2 coats (well, first 1.9 coats) were a 50/50 blend of Fast and Medium activators. The 3rd coat was Medium only. I've been trying to use up my Fast activator because I got stuck with it for a while during the clear shortage. It's going to go bad if I can't use it up before the weather gets hot. Otherwise this job would have been Medium only. I don't think the activator mixing had anything to do with the problem though, it was because I put 3 coats on in a row.

Gun was LPH-400 1.4, wide open, 28 psi.
 
2 coats of speed no problem. you can do 3 or 4 but need to wait the 30 min after the second coat. this still opens you up to some very minor pop that you cant even see once its buffed. here in the nj summers where the humidity is high i cant use speed at all beyond 2 coats. seems to be less about the temp and more about humidity that causes it. once memorial day hits or maybe mid june i will have to switch back to universal.
 
I tend to learn a lot of things the hard way. Up until that point I'd been pretty good at estimating how much clear to make, but I was about an ounce short that time. Been keeping a journal on how much it takes to do various things. I've never paid super close attention because on 2+ coat clears, the first coat tells you what you need to know. With Speed Clear, you have to know up front exactly what you need or there will either be a lot of waste, or my kind of screwup.
 
Barry said:
speed clear is to be applied wet never dry!
No one sprays as wet as I do (Exaggeration a little) and sprayed it 100s of times in six months of test and batch test and NEVER have had it run.
A 3rd coat is a disaster waiting to happen for solvent pop.
Unless the testing I did for JimC and test came out to 30 minute wait then do a coat.

Other option is like Tex said and now we are going custom.
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I will have to disagree... I shot some UC the other day and it slid off the panel and dripped on the floor... but boy does it look slick. It was area behind where the bumper goes.
 
Lol. Yeah, I've decided that I may as well just pour my fourth coat of UC on the floor. It ends up there anyway!
 
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