Was it Lacquer then Enamel followed by base/clear?

Trying to remember when automotive paint changes came along.
My thoughts were lacquer up till early 60s followed by Acrylic Enamel then base/clear in early 70s. Weren't 67-68 mustangs with AE?

Can anyone shed some light on which paints were used when?
 
GM used lacquer on some lines into the late 70's or very early 80's, I think Ford was using some enamel in the early 60's. And there was some experiments that went wrong. Nitrocellulose Lacquer I think may have been the first automotive paint.
 
I have been doing some research on this and it appears a Fish Oil based enamel was used in the 20s and 30s. Was replaced by lacquer which was later improved becoming Acrylic Lacquer in the mid to late 50s. From what I read Acrylic was then added to update the Enamel in the early 60s followed by the base/clear formulas of the 70s.
I guess, like Bob said, the different manufacturers could have stayed with one or the other type of paint for varied lengths of time.
Trying to determine what would have been used on a 67 Mustang Fastback.
 
I remember on the late 70's early 80's when GM was experimenting, the firewall tag was stamped lacquer if that's what was on it.
 
67 Mustang Enamel. I was told in the early 70's that Ford, Chrysler and GM commerical vehicles(p/u's,vans and trucks) were enamel. GM cars were Lacquer. Acrylic lacquer is what we used on most repairs. Dupont dulux on budget overalls. Acrylic enamel in our area didn't catch on until 75-76. We didn't like Centari at first and used Martin Senior and starting blending AE in our shop with great results. Something changed with the Centari in the early 80's and that's all we used. When b/c came along we used centari as the base with Ditzler clear until the early 90's on metallics. Bullit proof back then.
 
When BC/CC came in around this area most shops were still shooting lacquer for repairs, then PPG came out with DAU82 Delglo urethane clear that could be shot over lacquer so we based with lacquer and cleared with delglo. RM also had a high solids urethane clear we used that was designed for use over lacquer. Deltron singlestage was also becoming popular for completes instead of enamel. And Centari came out with the 2000 pack for clearcoating. Then DBU started getting poplular along with Chroma-Base, and MS/Acme/Sherwin William's- system that they had a lot of problems with.

Keith, that ditzler clear you shot over centari-was it Delglo DAU-82? Sprayed a lot like SPI universal IMO.
 
Nitrocellulose lacquer I believe was invented by a Dupont chemist for use on fabric airplane wings during WWI. Later, after the war, the technology was shared with automobiles. Lacquer allowed for a larger pallet of colors, that dried much faster then the previous enamels. Lacquer could be sprayed from a paint gun, which meant immigrants coming into automobile plants could learn to spray paints, and the painters union of skilled "brush artists" collapsed. GM was one of the first to use this new lacquer from Dupont, called Duco, with a color called "true blue," which was a silvery, bluish color. This is what Henry Ford was troubled with, in that he was cranking out production, but the painting process was taking too long. He would send is cars through baking cycles, (like bicycle manufactureres) and this would allow the enamel paint to dry faster. Henry had to make sure that the baking ovens were not too hot, as it would damage the bodies containing wood. "We will need a roof over Detroit," was a common quote of the early days as paint productivity was a slow process. Prior to spraying nitrocellulose, enamels were applied with a badger fur brush, at right angels to each other. Several coats had to be applied, and the "lice," dust as we call it was sanded out with pumice stone. Men would often apply these finished in a large tiled room, much like a bathroom, and rub there chests down with linseed oil, as they would be shirtless to keep the dust to a minimum. The wealthier people would often have two car bodies, one being refurbished, and the other on the chassis of the car they were using. Finishes would often dull quickly from uv, rain and bird droppings. Weathly people would have the freshly painted body put on the chassis and be other there way, so they wouldn't have to wait for the body to be refurbished. Many of the earlier coatings were black, as the pigment contained Gilsonite, extracted from coal. Gilsonite was a natural uv inhibitor, and would often last longer then other selected colors. Besides brushinig, car parts would be dipped in a vat, using a process called jappening. Dodge brothers, as well as other companies used this process for many of their parts. Often smaller parts, radiator shells, etc were dipped in paint, using this jappening process. " Any color as long as it's black" We can see why Ford said this as black lasted longer, and made more sense during early production years. Lacquer and enamel, be it nitrocellulose, then acrylic lacquer or enamel have been used for years. As we know manufacturers rely on water-based technology for car finishes. But GM did use a dispersion type lacquer up through the 1980's. But back in the day, enamel was considered more durable then lacquer, required fewer coats, BUT took longer to dry.
 
I used around 10 gallons of DELGLO , that was the worst crap I ever used.
Sprayed nice, hard to run, great gloss but the Highest failure rate of anything I have ever done.
The local PPG vendor said everyone was having the same problem with it, now that was real help. That crap turned milky and peeled .
Must be the junk the oems used in the late 80's early 90's.
 
LOL, never had any problems with DAU82, there's still cars done with deltron and cleared with DAU8s in this area that were painted in the late 80's and they still look good. If you were using it over lacquer and didn't allow enough flash time there was fog and peel.
 
Keith said:
Yes it was. The centatri required using two tone hardner I think 792 instead of the normal 793. I still have cars around that are going on 30 yrs that still look good.
 
I had good luck with DAU82. I haven't been able to replicate the buffed finishes I got with that stuff, it was free of urethane wave almost like lacquer.
 
Senile Old Fart;17015 said:
I used around 10 gallons of DELGLO , that was the worst crap I ever used.
Sprayed nice, hard to run, great gloss but the Highest failure rate of anything I have ever done.
The local PPG vendor said everyone was having the same problem with it, now that was real help. That crap turned milky and peeled .
Must be the junk the oems used in the late 80's early 90's.

My Bad, it was the late 70's - early 80's and the junk was called DelClear, DAU 75, it was total junk as far as I am concerned. Never shot any DELGLO, after the DELCLEAR experiance anything with the name DEL put a bad taste in my mouth,LOL.
 
dau 75 is why ppg lost all the custom van shops. piss water thing junk would die back in a week, smelled like shit and impossible to get a decent gloss with.
 
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