Euro 5000 clearcoat excessive heat

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Experimentation working with retarder. 4:1:1, slow hardener, 895. 3-4 capfuls per quart when added at 90°+. Over 100° I start replacing the 895 with retarder, keeping the reducer at the same ratio (4:1:1). Up to 115°+ half reducer, half retarder. That hot sprays similar to 4:1:1 with 895 and a few caps of retarder at 90°. Sprayed a mirror first coat at 4:1:1 half and half 895/retarder. Second coat 4:1:.5 straight retarder. Slick! Still a little tacky after 30 minutes.
 

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So these are temps in the Shop I'm assuming? Darn Shop must be like an oven. No insulation? It laid out super nice as well. I thought you had a booth? Or is other stuff in the booth?
 
TK if it was me, I think I'd start doing everything on the night shift. 122 degree temps....sweet baby Jesus that's hot. You must be drinking several gallons of fluid over the course of a work day. Feel for you my friend.
 
I work early mornings until 3PM, sometimes clearing early afternoon on small jobs. Big jobs get cleared AM. Just trying to help newbies, if stuck in high temperatures, retarder will help a lot without causing issues. Retarder won't cause runs like you would think, either. Makes it act like normal temperatures avoiding solvent problems.
 
Heat was once a super power…..now it kryptonite.
It is very difficult to entertain the thought of doing much in the Texas heat.
Thank you for the information….now if I can just manage the timeframe. I should have bought retarder on my last order.
I’ve been thinking it would be best to look for a place that would be less conducive to stroking out.
Last Saturday I paid too much in sweat and cramped up most of the night.
 
Worn Out Welder said:
Heat was once a super power…..now it kryptonite.
It is very difficult to entertain the thought of doing much in the Texas heat.
Thank you for the information….now if I can just manage the timeframe. I should have bought retarder on my last order.
I’ve been thinking it would be best to look for a place that would be less conducive to stroking out.
Last Saturday I paid too much in sweat and cramped up most of the night.
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I have 1 gallon of water, coconut water, liquid IV and Gatorade when it's hot. It really cuts down on the cramps.
 
3-10 am is the best temp window. i try to get ready so i can walk in the booth at 5 or so and tack it and shoot. done by 10 when the heat starts up.
i can remember when i had the production company going. we painted everyday despite the temp. only tim i ever shut down was winter of 84. heaters running full blast all night still freezing at 7 when i walked in. had a tilt wall building so it was a little cooler in summer but still hot.
i've had 2 heat stroke in my time. last one damn near killed me. had i not gotten into the lake it would have. texas heat aint no joke.
 
We hit the 100+ degree heat this week. Cooler here than down in Phoenix but still hot.
My booth is insulated but even then it's only about 10 degrees cooler than outside.
TK thanks for the info on Euro Clear and retarder, that will come in handy.
 
I was really pressing to have my car painted by July 4, missed the deadline...now I'm wondering if it's better to just wait til about November
 
I’m thinking the same thing.
I was going to do the Clausen Z-Chrome Rust Defender, but I can’t imagine it’s possible even in the early morning hours in north central Texas.
I’m pissing up a rope, blocking and trying to fill all the dings. 6-8 minutes of work time after mixing filler leads to a considerable amount of wasted material, even with small batches.
 
Worn Out Welder said:
I’m thinking the same thing.
I was going to do the Clausen Z-Chrome Rust Defender, but I can’t imagine it’s possible even in the early morning hours in north central Texas.
I’m pissing up a rope, blocking and trying to fill all the dings. 6-8 minutes of work time after mixing filler leads to a considerable amount of wasted material, even with small batches.
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I sprayed poly primer yesterday morning. I did everything to the car the night before...I had everything set up to come in the morning mix pour and spray. I was done in 30 mins. Took longer to clean the gun. It was 84 degrees at 7am...so it's doable...
 
Worn Out Welder said:
I’m thinking the same thing.
I was going to do the Clausen Z-Chrome Rust Defender, but I can’t imagine it’s possible even in the early morning hours in north central Texas.
I’m pissing up a rope, blocking and trying to fill all the dings. 6-8 minutes of work time after mixing filler leads to a considerable amount of wasted material, even with small batches.
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You can mix rage ultra with rage ultra extra to extend working time.

Don
 
dhutton01 said:
You can mix rage ultra with rage ultra extra to extend working time.

Don
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I've used that method when skim coating a panel so I have extra working time to really work the filler, so it's laying down nice and flat and as even as possible. Gotta hand it to Evercoat for coming up with a viable solution to an on going issue during the days of summer.

I find when using regular filler, the best temp to do filler work is between 65 and 70 degrees.
 
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