New Base/Clear gun recommendations for the DIYers in the $200-$400 range

Mustang408

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we keep Sharp Finex 3000 guns around here for the dirty or little jobs where we dont want to waste a liner. They spray alright, can still find them for 119, but most places are up to 150 now. I guess they figure some people think its junk unless it costs more.
 

AAE

Learner
I seen people raving about the 3m Accuspray system and quality of finish. One gun with removable/reusable heads.
 
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Bob Hollinshead

If anyone needs to go really cheap-this LVLP gun sprays decent. Air consumption isn't bad. My Son has had a few of them and they work surprisingly well-keep in mind though that oftentimes quality control can be hit or miss with any of the cheapy guns but Summit also has great customer service if there is an issue. $66
 
I had pretty much settled on the Tekna prolite 703517 (1.3,1.4,1.5 HE20, HV30), as the best "one-gun" for my base/clear needs. I haven't ordered one yet because I am no where near ready to paint. But, WOW, I can't believe the prices on these keep going up every week for the last month. I have been watching them for over a year steady at $380. Yesterday, the lowest sellers were $400. Today, they jumped to $430+. Although, Tooltopia is still $400, but they but don't say whether it includes the 1.5.

But, at the rate I'm going, it will be years before I paint anything. lol. I guess $50 isn't bad in the big picture of a $20k project. I've wasted more than that on other things... :disgust:
 

Chris_Hamilton

Trying to be the best me, I can be
For $463.09 shipped to your door you could get the Sata 5000RP 1.3 which is miles ahead of the the Tekna and pretty much anything else. It is the best gun I've ever used for spraying clear. It'll shoot single stages and base as well.
 
Chris, I have been hearing you, and the 5000 is not off the table. Have you shot metallic base with yours? That's the reason I'm holding back. Supposedly the Tekna is excellent for metallic base. Would I have to add a smaller 1.2 nozzle/needle for base @ $200 for the 5000rp? Or shoot base with the hoser 1.3 choked down? There is a video by "gunman" on youtube. Tekna vs 5000rp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gb_QFh-6bA

I'm still learning, and the RP may be a little too much gun for a novice. If I pull the trigger on the 5000, you gotta talk me through setting it up for base...

And for those keeping score on recommended
 
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dhutton

MX442;n84167 said:
Chris, I have been hearing you, and the 5000 is not off the table. Have you shot metallic base with yours? That's the reason I'm holding back. Supposedly the Tekna is excellent for metallic base. Would I have to add a smaller 1.2 nozzle/needle for base @ $200 for lthe 5000rp? Or shoot base with the hoser 1.3 choked down? There is a video by "gunman" on youtube. Tekna vs 5000rp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gb_QFh-6bA

I'm still learning, and the RP may be a little too much gun for a novice. If I pull the trigger on the 5000, you gotta talk me through setting it up for base...

And for those keeping score on recommended
 

Jorge M.

Member
dhutton;n84172 said:
I am not sure that the 5000RP is a good choice for a novice. It is like spraying with a fire hose to a novice.

Don

The Tekna is not a slow and deliberate gun either.
I can't comment on the RP5000 for basecoat. But for clear I think it will allow a new painter to move faster and maybe will help with more fluid motion, if that makes any sense. You can also spray at a slightly longer distance than other guns, that gives you a bigger fan as well.

The only complaint I have heard about that gun is that is not as comfortable to hold as others, but that's highly subjective.
 

Chris_Hamilton

Trying to be the best me, I can be
5000 RP 1.3 is not a fire hose, the 1.4 is but the 1.3 is pretty middle of the road. I've seen a guy at work who is not a very good painter start using it and immediately his work looked better. It atomizes so much better than anything out there. As for base coat I personally use a old Sata 2000 HVLP 1.3 and just recently got a Sata 5000 HVLP 1.3 and a1.4 nozzle and needle set. I interchange them as necessary. The RP 1.3 will shoot base nicely choke it down to about 1 1/2 turns out and it'll work good.
In my opinion a slow gun is harder for a novice to learn with than a faster gun that puts out more material. All about rhythm when you are shooting and moving slow makes it harder to be consistent than moving faster. Maybe not putting it into words exactly right but it's easier to be consistent with a faster pace.

The guy is kind of a douche but watch the video and look at his pace. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjOOTaHa8GI Pretty much right on. Not saying slower can't be done and done well but most really good painters move at a speed similar to Kosmoski in the vid.
 

AndyK

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Staff member
Bump.

Any latest and greatest gun offerings or news in this price category? Any feedback from about a gun you purchased because of this thread?
 

Bartman

Member
You will here a lot of opinions on here. The best on the market are SATA and Anest/Iwata. I have both and like both. I do not have a SATA 5000 yet or the latest Iwata SuperNova yet. I have had nearly every model of SATA since the jet 90. I have a 4000 now but like the 3000 a little better. I will get a 5000 soon. I have had quite a number of Iwata's. To me, bang for the buck, under 200 bucks. You can get a Iwata W-400 from Japan off of ebay. I bought one because I like flow coating with my W-400 and it was looking kind of rough. Just my 0.02.
 
I bought the Tekna prolite from Amazon warehouse deals with a coupon on prime day for $325. It is now running about $440+. Since the price increase, I would get the Sata 5000 through eBay for about $440 shipped.

Unfortunately I haven't used it yet.
 

Bartman

Member
Chris, I have been hearing you, and the 5000 is not off the table. Have you shot metallic base with yours? That's the reason I'm holding back. Supposedly the Tekna is excellent for metallic base. Would I have to add a smaller 1.2 nozzle/needle for base @ $200 for the 5000rp? Or shoot base with the hoser 1.3 choked down? There is a video by "gunman" on youtube. Tekna vs 5000rp.

I'm still learning, and the RP may be a little too much gun for a novice. If I pull the trigger on the 5000, you gotta talk me through setting it up for base...

And for those keeping score on recommended

I watched the video and I can say if I had to spray that slow with the Tekna, it would end up in the trash. Maybe his setup but..... Again Iwata W-400 off ebay from Japan something like 180 bucks shipped.
 
If I run into extra disposable cash, I will pick up the 5000 for clear, and use the Tekna for base only.
 

Jorge M.

Member
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I watched the video and I can say if I had to spray that slow with the Tekna, it would end up in the trash. Maybe his setup but..... Again Iwata W-400 off ebay from Japan something like 180 bucks shipped.

The W-400 from Japan may be a different gun than the one you get in the US. The Japanese version has no cutout slits on the nozzle, I sell SPI to a painter that owns one here in Canada, haven't had a chance to play with it. It may not be compliant as well, just something to keep in mind if you care for that.
 
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angrywombat4

If I was a guy just painting one car, I'd probably try to find a Tekna Prolite or Copper but in a 1.4, choking it down a bit for base and opening it up for clear.

Hate to bring up an old post but Crash can you explain what you mean by "choking it down and opening it up" in extremely novice terms? I have a Tekna Copper and will be using it for both base and clear. Thanks for the help!
 

crashtech

Combo Man
There is a threaded knob on the back of the gun that controls how far the fluid needle can be pulled out of the fluid nozzle. Screwing it in will cause the gun to flow less fluid, which is helpful for lower viscosity materials like base, or even epoxy mixed as sealer.
 
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angrywombat4

OK, so using the fluid control as the "throttle"! Got it, thank you!
 
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