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Don't know what you guys think, but I've read a few times that it isn't recommended to paint primers and bases, clears with the same guns. I have a tight budget, under $200. Thinking about a Sharpe fx3000. I bought a Iwata airgunza for around the same price, it was a POS. This gun want be used for primer. Base, clear, etc only. Suggestions, thoughts?
 
CBPayne;35209 said:
Don't know what you guys think, but I've read a few times that it isn't recommended to paint primers and bases, clears with the same guns. I have a tight budget, under $200. Thinking about a Sharpe fx3000. I bought a Iwata airgunza for around the same price, it was a POS. This gun want be used for primer. Base, clear, etc only. Suggestions, thoughts?
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I am not as experienced or as wise as most of these guys. I grew up in a body shop and remain around it some. some people will disagree with me but if you are only doing one job. you can get away with having one gun. but KEEP it clean. we recently did a black car separate base coat gun then a dedicated "clear only" gun someone had used the clear gun with some silver so now the black car has some metallic flakes in it.
I would suggest spend the money on a good gun use it for base and clear and keep it clean. then buy a lesser expensive gun for primers and epoxy.
 
i have a tekna with 1 1.4 tip rebuilt I could give ya a deal on
 
I used a gti millennium for about 10yrs and I have no complaints as far as spraying just big and heavy for me. I'm now using a iwata lph 400 and for clear its better to me but I haven't sprayed enough base yet to give a good opinion, the main reason I got it was I'm a smaller person and it's really light and comfortable compaired to most guns.
 
spend the money on a quality gun,devilbiss tekna is as low as I would go.
 
For maybe just a little bit more look at the DeVilbiss Finishline 4.
I just got one in a kit with 4 different size tips and am impressed with
how well it sprays.
I usually use an Iwata for clear, but the Finishline does really good.
And they have a 2.2 which is really good for poly primers,
which is what I originally got one for.

http://www.tcpglobal.com/spraygundepot/devFLG4.aspx
 
What are the specs on your compressor? Air volume and air quality (filtration) have to be right first. If you could expand your budget a bit more i would recommend the Devilbiss plus. I usually use an iwata lph400 for base and clear and get a really nice finish, but every time I use the devilbiss plus I'm amazed at how great it sprays. I get the best results between 37-40 psi. I can lay it on thin but wet (like Bob says) much easier than my lph. It's a fast gun compared to the iwata. Im thinking the speed suits my spraying style better. It sprays basecoats nice too- I run about 25 psi when spraying metallics. I see one on ebay right now for $270- it comes with 1.2,1.3,1.4 tips. I use the 1.4 for sealer,basecoat and clear. But like I said, if your air supply isn't right it won't matter how nice a gun you have.
 
I use the Sharpe guns. Work flawlessly for me. They are a good quality American made gun. I'm going with the new Razor line this year. Was waiting to see if one would show up for my birthday but no such luck lol.
 
I have 60 gallon puma, 3.2hp 13 cfm at 40 psig and 12 cfm at 90 psig. Max psi 135. I have a harbor freight regulator with moisture filter then the devilbiss snake moisture filter, and a 25' green flexzilla hose.
 
I have this Iwata airgunza, I think its there cheap gun. Anyways I've only painted out of it once and then the second time it started leaking. I'm looking at the break down of the gun and the needle goes through a needle packing nut. Anyways as soon as you put paint or lacquer thinner in the cup it leaks out at this point. Any idea what this could be and if I can fix it? Thanks
 
The packing has to be tightened just enough so the needle doesn't hang up. It should also be lubed with special spray gun lube.

The Air Gunsa I tried was a real piece of junk. Made in Italy, not Japan, if I remember right. I'll never use one again if I can help it.
 
Anyone ever heard of a pro tek gun? 3 of the shops around here have started using them and they seem to like them. 1 of the shops said it was just as good a the iwata to him. Their not but $110 to $170 seems to good to be true.
 
Even the Iwata tech guy said it is pos. It cost me $150. If I remember it sprayed awesome for my standards, but it seems to be a one hitter.
 
Thanks, the guy selling them is claiming their a iwata knock off, but when I looked at it and told him it didn't have the tulip tip like a iwata he got kinda testy. I was thinking about it for a primer gun because of the price but I might just keep looking.
 
shine;35778 said:
if he says a 150 dollar gun is as good as an iwata stop listening to him.
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If it's too good to be true then it is. I've learned that lesson over the years along with every time I try to get by with something cheap it always cost me more. Now I justify buying the more expensive tools by doing the work myself. At least that's what I tell my wife :).

I know nothing compared to the level of talent on this forum but I use a 3m accuspray for primer and can't see using something other than what the pros are using like an iwata or SATA for base and clear. Clear at a minimum. Guys like shine, bob, Jeremy, crash offer invaluable advise. Thinking about the cost of time and materials I can't see taking a chance on a suspect gun. They might work sometimes but how do you get better and repeatable results when you're fighting your equipment?
 
I have some cheapy guns that I regularly use for primer and some for paint, along with the good guns Sata and Iwata. One thing to remember with the cheapo guns is take them apart and clean them well before use-I just got a cheapy 2.2 tip primer gun last week and skipped the normal routine of disassembly and cleaning and fisheyed some of my work because of it. They sure like to use a lot of assembly grease in Tiawan and China!
 
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