coming off in sheets
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Jim C
Oldtimer
your absolutely right. thats why i slowly got out of working on bikes and cars. to many headaches dealing with people and to do a job correctly takes too much time that people just aren't willing to pay for so you end up working for peanuts. there are rare exceptions but its just that....rare
that dozer you can atleast have fun on. i ride my kubota around and find it relaxing.
that dozer you can atleast have fun on. i ride my kubota around and find it relaxing.
Shine, I hate to see you have to go through all that work. Its enough for all the work you have to do but not ever really knowing what caused it probably bothers you almost as bad. My son has a 66 Chevy step side he and I restored about ten years ago that I will be doing the same thing to sometime in the future. I used Matrix base and who knows what clear, didn't know much about painting at the time, its two tone yellow and white. All of the yellow has blisters and pimples everywhere but the white looks like the day we sprayed it. I dread stripping that sucker, that cab has more body lines I think than any other truck made.
shine
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if you use heat and plastic blades you'll find it is easy to get off . acrylic turns to rubber when warmed up . it will peel out of body lines and such .
it beats hell out of stripper or grinding disc . doing it this way i dont have to completely rebuild the surface . i'll fix the gouges ( everybody gets some ) then sand it some and shoot a couple of coats of epoxy . pia but got no choice .
it beats hell out of stripper or grinding disc . doing it this way i dont have to completely rebuild the surface . i'll fix the gouges ( everybody gets some ) then sand it some and shoot a couple of coats of epoxy . pia but got no choice .
Shine does the white epoxy underneath seem soft? I sprayed reduced epoxy sealer last week, temps were marginal at best but I wanted to rush it. Sealer felt a bit rubbery even after a couple hours dry time, I shot it anyway that's why I'm re-doing it this week. Base isn't peeling off or anything but I had problems with masking paper bleeding through and sticking to masked base. I still expect trouble later on. Small parts at least, bike fenders.
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Look at the floor!
jlcustomz
evil painter
Sometimes years of experience at being good at something just never covers a potential product type problem. Does sound like an issue somewhere between just shitty product & a time window issue with it. Most of these new cheaper products are aimed at lower end rush jobs, which may usually include the use of a low end 2k primer or sealer that gets base shot over it before it reaches much of a cure level, allowing cheap crap to stick to it.
I personally don't get to do much of the types of painting I like to do these days. Your loss here really helps me decide to just stick to a narrow range of products to avoid this sort of nightmare. Thankfully I favor black paint jobs & know a good source for it.
Shine, I can relate your pain with the cramps from hell thing. I've got who knows what sort of nerve damage done to me from emergency exploratory gunshot wound surgery years ago, along with whatever else is giving me worsening cramps randomly all over with age. I mentioned the pickle juice thing helping me that a friend told me about last year. I'm as sceptical as anyone about some things, but it gives me temporary relief where nothing seemed to help. I get the 1/2 gal or gal jars of sliced dill pickles. I've had cramps start up at night that have lasted over 4 hrs & drinking some juice/eating a few pickles some how makes it stop in a few minutes. Many days I take some before supper just for in case. Supposedly it triggers something in the brain to stop things, not a dehydration thing. Been through over 4 gallons since whenever i last mentioned this. I'm really tired of pickle juice this often, but way better than a cramp from hell for hours that just won't stop.
Hang in there brother.
I personally don't get to do much of the types of painting I like to do these days. Your loss here really helps me decide to just stick to a narrow range of products to avoid this sort of nightmare. Thankfully I favor black paint jobs & know a good source for it.
Shine, I can relate your pain with the cramps from hell thing. I've got who knows what sort of nerve damage done to me from emergency exploratory gunshot wound surgery years ago, along with whatever else is giving me worsening cramps randomly all over with age. I mentioned the pickle juice thing helping me that a friend told me about last year. I'm as sceptical as anyone about some things, but it gives me temporary relief where nothing seemed to help. I get the 1/2 gal or gal jars of sliced dill pickles. I've had cramps start up at night that have lasted over 4 hrs & drinking some juice/eating a few pickles some how makes it stop in a few minutes. Many days I take some before supper just for in case. Supposedly it triggers something in the brain to stop things, not a dehydration thing. Been through over 4 gallons since whenever i last mentioned this. I'm really tired of pickle juice this often, but way better than a cramp from hell for hours that just won't stop.
Hang in there brother.
shine
Member
i've never done a low end job . i dont do collision work . i have never fell for the relabel cheap third line crap .
it is uniformly failing so it kinda rules out timing and such. plus i usually push the flash time out . there's just something weird going on between the toner and binder . likely never know. just glad at this point i can break the bond easily and get it off clean without tearing up the surface .
im my day we had no alternatives to the majors with the exception being Acme and it was better than some of this hyped up relabel crap . so i never had to deal with a failure like this . done some dumb shit from time to time but it was due to a little too much ah well you know . i am a child of the 60's .
it is uniformly failing so it kinda rules out timing and such. plus i usually push the flash time out . there's just something weird going on between the toner and binder . likely never know. just glad at this point i can break the bond easily and get it off clean without tearing up the surface .
im my day we had no alternatives to the majors with the exception being Acme and it was better than some of this hyped up relabel crap . so i never had to deal with a failure like this . done some dumb shit from time to time but it was due to a little too much ah well you know . i am a child of the 60's .
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